Deptford Thames Tideway Tunnel Crossfield Open Space Landscape Masterplan

Tunnel, Thames Tideway have established a  Community Liaison Working Group – to keep local people informed about  works, listen to your views, feedback and help minimise disruption.

The first meeting of the Community Liaison Working Group will take place on Monday 28 November at 19:00 at the Creekside Discovery Centre, 14 Creekside, London SE8 4SA.  You can find out more on the Thames Tideway Tunnel web site at or by calling their dedicated Helpdesk on 08000 30 80 80 or email

Information supplied to DNA By:

Adam Platts| Project Manager
Regeneration and Place
London Borough of Lewisham
4th Floor | Laurence House | Catford | London SE6 4RU
Tel: 0208 314 6089

Let’s Get it Right! Community convinces Council to take their time over contentious Tidemill development.

Lewisham Council have voted for more time to consider the community’s fears over the controversial Old Tidemill School housing scheme in Deptford.

In a packed council chamber on Thursday night (29th September 2016) and with protests being held outside, the Strategic Planning Committee unanimously voted to defer the proposed planning application, citing their fears over the loss of the popular Old Tidemill Wildlife Garden, the impact of loss of sunlight on surrounding homes and the forced relocation of residents of Reginald House, earmarked for demolition.

The Chair of the Planning Committee, Councillor Amanda De Ryk said “I certainly would like to feel that we had done everything we could to broker an agreement between the community and the developers. We need to absolutely look again at the proposed spaces, both public and private, with the way that they are run, managed and shared, particularly in terms of the children, that’s a point that has been well made by community”

The council-owned site was controversially earmarked for development after Tidemill School was made an Academy and moved to the nearby Deptford Lounge. The current proposals include the demolition of Reginald House and the forced relocation of its residents and the total destruction of the Old Tidemill Wildlife Garden to build 209 new homes, including 175 for private and 34 affordable, with the number of social housing units unclear. Clarity over the number of units was continuously questioned through the planning hearing by councilors. Community groups have highlighted that these new homes will be out of reach for local Deptford residents

Planning Committee member, Councillor Paul Bell echoed these concerns stating “For just a one bedroom flat – on a 35% shared ownership basis – you need to get a mortgage of £122,500. The problem is Deptford is always “done to” and not “done with” and I just feel this scheme is being “done to” the community of Deptford. I do not feel the council should be in the business of forcing people out of their homes.”

Nearly 9,500 people die each year in London because of air pollution (according to a study carried out by researchers at King’s College London) and Deptford is on the front line, the garden is key in our defence of poor air quality in the area. The Old Tidemill Garden is 2,400sqm and ideal for a variety of uses including outdoor education, children’s play, food growing, access to nature, health and wellbeing and building community cohesion.

The developer’s proposal is to replace this with a ‘Pocket Park’ of 500sqm on the corner of Deptford Church Street, a congested dual carriageway, identified as a blackspot for traffic pollution. This barren patch of grass is totally unsuitable for use as a community garden, as levels of air pollution regularly exceed the legal EU limit. Whilst the loss of the much-valued garden, with the felling of 73 mature trees would be crushing in a neighbourhood chronically lacking in green open space.

The Old Tidemill Wildlife Garden was originally created thanks to the foresight of parents and teachers of the Tidemill School back in the early 90’s. They capitalized on a previous wave of regeneration in Deptford, demanding funds to landscape the garden with Groundwork, creating the largest school nature garden in the borough. Enjoyed by school children over the last 30 years and reinvigorated in 2012.

For the last four years Friends of Old Tidemill Wildlife garden have run an innovative programme of free weekly intergenerational events and workshops including arts and crafts gardening and cooking, sports clubs, citizen science projects, and forest school sessions with local primary schools. With funds from Arts Council England, Vinspired, Deptford Challenge Trust, National Lottery Funding, Groundwork and NHS Choose Health Fund.

“It’s a stunningly beautiful and tranquil place in the heart of Deptford, and a fantastic opportunity to bring the local community together.” – Quote from Old Tidemill Wildlife garden volunteer

This is an opportunity for the community to feel empowered to make positive changes to get a fairer deal than currently proposed by the developer. Friends of Old Tidemill Garden alongside tenants and residents groups from the neighbouring estates, are determined to promote a positive alternative to the development. An alternative in which, the social housing is retained with thorough refurbishment and one that also see’s the Old Tidemill Wildlife Garden remain an asset of value to the community, building on its successful interim use as a community garden.

The Old Tidemill school and wildlife garden site represents – in terms of public ownership, community use and amenity (past, present and future), truly affordable homes for local people, etc. – the opportunity for Deptford to become a beacon of intelligent 21st C. urban planning for London: building healthier, happier neighbourhoods through collaboration and trust.” said Andrea Hughes, a spokesperson for Deptford Neighbourhood Action

Deptford aint avvin it!

Further Links @oldtidemillgrdn

Protect our Green Spaces: Save Old Tidemill School Wildlife Garden

The future of this beautiful community wildlife garden hangs in the balance by a thread.
Lewisham Council’s Strategic Planning Committee is set to decide it’s fate tomorrow night (7.30pm at the Civic Suite, Catford).  To date, only one of the Committee members, the Chair, Amanda de Ryk has taken the time to come and look at the Garden and the grounds to see for herself how the plans will impact upon the garden, grounds and local residents.  All sorts of wildlife can be found in this small piece of heaven in Deptford which boasts a outdoor ampitheatre, a workshop cabin, a mosaic standing stone, vegetable plots and even a festival type loo (hole in the ground which you through sawdust in afterwards!).
An infamous Indian Bean tree can be found in this large natural habitat which spans some 2,000 sq m.  As a real community garden should – it appeals to young, old and in-between – “a piece of magic” in an otherwise very deprived, urban area which is surrounded on all sides by heavy traffic roads – it is South Deptford’s Green Lungs.  lungs that should be given the breathing space they need to keep everyone in the local community happier and healthier.img_1558img_1557  img_1561 img_1575

DNA & the Friends of Old Tidemill School Garden CALL TO ACTION



THE MEETING TIME has been booked for: 4.20-6pm

Councillors will be making a site visit with the planning team and the Chair of the Strategic Planning Committee taking place on Thursday 29th September is aware that there will be represenation from local groups:

  1. Reginald House residents
    2. Frankham House residents
    3. Friends of Old Tidemill School
    4. DNA & possibly a representative from
  1. Crossfields?
    6. Deptford Society?

7.HAGL – Housing Action Group for Lewisham People?

This call to action is to mobilise support and to co-ordinate the Community’s objections.

Help is needed for making placards for the demonstration planned outside the Committee Meeting:

If you are interested in doing just one placard please email (Note the ‘e’ between my first and surname)


Update from Deptford Folk: Proposed Development – Childers Street, SE8

The closing date for responses is 12th September 2016Notice of Proposed Development
DC/16/096613: The Arches: Childers Street

DeptfordFolk have opposed a proposal to convert commercial units on Childers Street into private flats. The area needs businesses and better street safety; our neighbourhood has nothing to gain from this proposal.

Local residents had a meeting with Cllr. Jamie Milne in 2014 (pre-DeptfordFolk) about these units and how they were not being marketed effectively. Residents asked for his help and support to ensure that viable business would be attracted to the units, street safety would be improved and ongoing maintenance carried out. However, as far as we are aware, our local elected representative did not take any action.

Members of DeptfordFolk have been working with the Local Labour and Business Scheme from Lewisham’s Economic Development department to try and secure meanwhile/temporary use of the units for community use eg. gallery, cycle workshop or cafe. However, the developers have pursued another approach.

This area needs business, shops, and amenities. Please respond and ensure this proposal is rejected. Objections online have 1000 characters or email quoting DC/16/096613. DeptfordFolk full text here.

In your response you could say something like:I oppose the low quality, low natural light residential use in units described as not for habitation whose lack of interface with the street will contribute to an increased lack of safety in the area.I oppose the erosion of SIL/DEA in the area which provides employment opportunities for local people.

I believe there has been little attempt to market the properties or any commitment to maintaining the units to present viable business opportunities

I do not believe adequate consultation with neighbours has been undertaken.

I would support the reclassification of these units to A1/3 usage to allow shops or cafes reflecting the changing demographics, population increase and cycle quietway in the immediate area.

I believe that while there may be low demand for B1 use, in shell condition, fitted out office space would be viable. On this site the LPA’s preference for public-facing uses in ground floor units should ensure options other than residential should be explored before the irreversible housing units are created.

I believe the residential units proposed would have a negative impact on the local area while A1/3 use would lead to positive local regeneration including increased safety, amenity and employment.

If you have tried to make enquiries about this units DeptfordFolk want to hear from you. If this goes to planning we will need evidence to prove that the units have been poorly marketed.